Max Velocity on Threat Training

By | August 19, 2015

Two Tactical Worlds from Max V:

I recently posted about ‘Normalcy Bias‘ and put a copy of the post up on the MVT Forum. As usual, Diz hit the nail on the head with a comment:

I’ve been thinking about this all morning. I really think you need to make the distinction between “conventional” crime or violence, and “unconventional” crime or violence. Because when we’re discussing these things it’s almost as if we’re talking about two different subjects. The guy’s whose main focus is “conventional” crime, i.e. street crime, view the threat as purely conventional, garden variety, every day violence. From this point of view, responding to violence with impact, edged weapons or handguns is probably the optimum choice. And the stats are certainly there, saying if you do use a handgun, you probably won’t need more than one mag.

On the other hand, there is the guy whose main focus is on the “unconventional” violence, which stems from the deteriorating political/economic situation, who views the threat as something beyond “conventional” crime, getting into the civil unrest, terrorism, and insurgency.

So when these two guys are posting about being prepared to meet violence, they’re really talking about two different kinds or levels of conflict. Hence the posting about chest rigs being unnecessary for actual self defense. From a conventional POV, that’s probably correct; if we’re talking about you being assaulted somehow on the street, then you will likely as not be fighting with EDC gear. BUT, if we’re talking from an unconventional POV, as in civil unrest, in Ferguson right now, or rioting/looting coming to your neighborhood, or even terrorist attacks, you may be looking at something akin to a running gun battle, which might closely resemble a firefight in Falujah. So to say that a rifle and chest rig, with at least 6 re-loads is not necessary is fracking retarded.

I guess the question I would be asking these guys is if they see a very low likelihood of using the rifle, and a chest rig to feed it, then why are you training with it? It would seem to me you’d be better off doing H2H and handgun training for your perceived real world application. If you do use a long gun, a shotgun would fit your application better than a battle rifle. This tells me these guys are just gaming it for a hobby. Why should we even be listening to them?

Followed up by G.W.N.S.:

I believe that many if not most of these people do not believe it could ever get to this “unconventional Threat.”

From my point of view it is about living in denial!

Regardless of reasons I think we have to except the point that a large percentage will never believe that such training and gear will ever be necessary until they are confronted with such a situation.

So there we have it.

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